Should the US just up and leave the UN? What would that look like? How would one adequately predict the consequences of such a thing? This would amount to a significant strategic revamp, a seismic shift - you couldn’t do it without some assurance regarding what the fallout would look like - how practically viable could such an assurance be?
Clearly the ideological underpinnings of the UN are anti-democratic [in so much as the notion of ‘world governance’ is inherently anti-democratic, in the same manner that the massive progressive bureaucracy of the EU is inherently anti-democratic], anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-Israel - and so on the surface of it it seems to defy common sense that there’s a meaningful imperative that justifies the US continuing to support such an organization - fifty years ago maybe when it could be roused in defense of a US led global order - but that’s clearly not the case now. I mean, the UN wouldn't even exist unless the US thought it a forum useful for promoting Western interests - it clearly no longer serves that purpose, if it ever truly did, so how can you defend it from the US’s point of view? Does it do some good that isn’t vitiated by its noxious politics? Possibly - but in order to keep the good while invalidating the politics, doesn't the US have to walk away? Put another way, doesn't the US staying legitimize the noxious ideologies and agendas that pollute the place?
I don’t have an answer - I would like to read a reasonable attempt at visualizing what the world looks like five years after the US walking away from the UN. I suppose the factions which currently hold sway would be forced out into the open - out from behind the absurd, unworkable illusion of world governance. You’d have a Chinese faction, possibly aligned with Russia and Iran - an Anglo faction, which maybe countries like Japan, South Korea, maybe India would align with - a rump European faction that muddles about between factions trying desperately to maintain some European ‘character’ - or maybe a European north/south split - I dunno - America still dominates but we’re in an increasingly multi-polar world now and gotta believe once the absurd illusions of the UN are cleared away the ground of that reality would be demonstrably staked out by the key players - I’m guessing it would look very much like early modern Europe where nodes of power were constantly mixing with and butting up against each other, sometimes reflecting a desire for balance, sometimes a desire for dominance.
A lot of conflict marked Europe’s rise - are you predicting much conflict for a post UN world? Calling it a post UN world is just another way of acknowledging the US led world order no longer abides unchallenged - which means conflict is inevitable, just as it was for the rising European states. I’m not saying world war or a war between factions is inevitable since modern military tech may render such a thing impossible - but conflict is definitely coming.
[but in a globalized, highly connected world, you need international forums to ‘mitigated’ disagreements, no? Well, aside from the fact I’m not sure the UN mitigates anything other than competence and common sense, you have the WTO, the IMF, the American Fed and dollar, free trade zones, NATO, ASEAN, hundreds of bilateral and multilateral trade and security agreements and treaties etc etc - what does the UN give you that those things can’t other than the insinuation of moronic, regressive, highly biased, utterly detached from reality political agendas? I mean, that a piece of shit country like Venezuela can sponsor a resolution designed to delegitimize Israel and be taken seriously is patently absurd, farcical - no one should give a fuck what that lunatic Maduro thinks about anything nevermind his thoughts on Israel - yet in the UN he matters. It’s ridiculous - and there’s the problem, the idiotic ‘progressive’ mindset of the place that acts as if all countries matter and are equal - all countries do not matter - a small handful of countries matter - to think or act otherwise is pure nonsense - the US staying in the UN legitimizes and thus empowers that nonsense - I say get out]
