horse of george

"... oh, here we go again with the bloody gay marriage noise in California... these people do realize that the state is insolvent, on the verge of bankruptcy, right?... and now once again I'm supposed to give a shit about gay marriage?... perfect example of why the subject infuriates, the politics of it is grossly inflated given the merits of the argument and relevance of the issue... I'll say it again, if you wanna legalize gay marriage, fine, but then you must also then hold that there is no logical reason for the state to be involved in marriage... why should it be the state's business who loves whom and how they go about expressing it?... marriage was about the making and raising of babies, and I mean explicitly the chaos of seminal copulation with ovulating females and its discomfiting consequences, consequences which were of vital importance to the state and that's why it protected its stake in marriage... but if you're now saying marriage is about love first with a somewhat artificial theory of children held out as a possible adjunct, well that's an entirely different thing and there's no logical reason why the state should care, at least until these putative children come along, however they come along, and their rights need protecting... my point has always been that the key to a traditional idea of marriage is not the mere presence of children, but the means by which those children got here and there's a huge existential gap between underlying circumstances and methods by which the majority of gays acquire children and the way heterosexuals go about the getting thereof... if you want the laws to simply ignore the fact of that difference, pretend it doesn't exist and more importantly doesn't matter, then go ahead, declare homosexual and heterosexual unions exactly the same by virtue of the shared quality of romantic love... I think you'd be a dishonest fool in denial regarding fundamental truths for claiming such, but who cares what I think... all I'm saying is that once you take that step the next logical step is to ask what's the point then of the state being involved in marriage at all?... to me it would be illogical and absurdly hypocritical to be for gay marriage and yet opposed to government getting out of the marriage game altogether... again, if marriage is not about the potentiality of two college kids imagining themselves in love and spending the night together and then waking up the next morning parents then why the hell should the state care about it?... why should the state care that these two kids may feel the urge to run off and solemnize their love but for the devil that lies waiting in the shadows?..."